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Engine and gear Oil for CC 283

Postby Rivaskipper » Mon Dec 26, 2011 3:39 pm

Hello again....

perhaps it is a stupid question....

What oil brand to use for an CC 283 engine ?

Thanks

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Re: Engine and gear Oil for CC 283

Postby Don Ayers » Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:40 pm

jens;

Thanks for the post.

I have to assume you are talking about a CC 283 engine with a hydraulic transmission rather than a manual gear box. This is easy to tell the difference on the engine as well as your dash shift control.

most people use a good quality SAE 30 weight motor oil for these older engines. You do not need to use a multi-grade oil such at 10-40 etc.

Most do not use synthetic oils especially if you have a manual gear box (transmission/inverter) that shares the same fluid as the engine.

Hope this helps.

How about telling us what is available for you to choose from over there?

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Re: Engine and gear Oil for CC 283

Postby martinfeletto » Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:23 am

Don - I would agree that straight 30 weight is OK but why not use a multi-grade oil? Its better - that's why they made it! I understand with a shared pan and a manual reverse gear that sometimes its not appropriate.

FYI - at least on my 1970 Super Ariston with original engine stickers Riva called for multi-grade oil. I believe they called for multi-grade much earlier I just cant prove it at this moment.

I have 9 Riva Crusader engines total in my boats and I run Delo 400 in all of them and add ZDDP to all. Any flat-tappet motor should have ZDDP added - the zinc additives in motor oil, at least in the US, have been drastically reduced and/or deleted. Delo 400 is a diesel grade oil that has a bit more zinc than non-diesel but I still add ZDDP. Put it in my forklift too!

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Re: Engine and gear Oil for CC 283

Postby martinfeletto » Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:26 am

By the way, this is what I use:

http://zddplus.com/
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Re: Engine and gear Oil for CC 283

Postby Don Ayers » Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:38 am

Marty;

Thanks for the reply. I guess I should clarify what engines I was thinking of.

Here in the USA we think of the "old" engines as the flat head, inline/straights. Like the old Chris Crafts.

Next came the early V8's, like the small block Chevy's. Many of which did not have temperature regulation via a thermostat.

Then came the "more" modern engines in the Riva's like the Crusaders with thermostats and hydraulic transmissions/inverters.

I think you are correct to use a mulit-weight oil in the more modern engines.

For my example in my 1959 Ariston (Chris Craft 283 V8) that does not have a thermostat and is a manual reverse gear I have to choose a good straight weight SAE 30 oil.

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Re: Engine and gear Oil for CC 283

Postby martinfeletto » Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:50 am

Think you should run ZDDP
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Re: Engine and gear Oil for CC 283

Postby Rivaskipper » Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:55 pm

Thanks for help...

I just bought SAE 30 Oil.

My CC 283 is build in 1963.


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Re: Engine and gear Oil for CC 283

Postby SuperFlorida » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:28 am

Hello everybody,
the question about the motor oil has been answered, but what about the gearbox?
In my motor manual it is written to use "Automatic Transmission Fluid Type A" for the Paragon Reverse Gear.

Which transmission fluid is today replacing the Type A?

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Re: Engine and gear Oil for CC 283

Postby Don Ayers » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:24 am

Good question.

I will respond back with an answer shortly. Getting harder these days to find a bottle that says Type A on it but there are other fluids with correct specs. If I take a picture I think that will help you better find the right stuff in your "neck of the woods"
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Re: Engine and gear Oil for CC 283

Postby Don Ayers » Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:07 am

OK, "Type A" as a term was phased out many years ago. some time ago you could still read on the back of the bottle and it would say "for use in Type A applications". You won't see that anymore. It does not mean that the correct fluid is not available, it just goes by a different name.

Now days the correct replacement for Type A is called "Dextron/Mercon" See pictures of the label. That is what you want.

DO NOT USE TYPE F !!!!!

You should have no problem finding Dex/Merc transmission fluid. Hope this helps and thanks for posting.
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